<span class="postbody"><span style="font-style: italic;">fuckerest</span><br /><br />That was cool<br /><br />And We don't spell english badly, it's anglo's fault. Because we all (the non english speakers, wherever we were) understand ourselves when we speak, are the gringos and the guiris the only ones who doesn't understand us.</span>

CNL, listening comprehension and oral exams were the hardest part for me too, but you're unfortunate rather than fortunate that you weren't tested in that field, because there's nearly no point in learning a language if you're not going to be able to speak it. Even when I understand that you're talking about your compulsory English studies in the school, so maybe you cared more about passing than about getting useful knowledge.

<p>But nowadays everybody should learn English --and that's a good thing. If spoken English is hard for you I recommend you, aside from travelling to (standard) English-speaking countries --which I myself haven't done--, to watch TV in English. What helped me most during years was BBC World (although it's not free any longer here in Spain since it upgraded to digital signal and it comes via satelite), but you may choose what you like best. I even used to watch Cartoon Network in English, although most cartoon characters speak English which is far from standard. :-P

Well, if you can write english properly you'll probably be able to have a* conversation with an english guy... they'll understand you, although they'll probably laugh at your pronunciation*xD

<p>I was lucky because I would felt nervous if I would have to do an oral exam. I don't know if I'm good at speaking english, but I prefer not to do that kind of exams, although we read some texts in the class.</p>
<p>I'm going to say what I have said a lot of times... english language should be the official language of all the countries in the world. We can have spanish as the co-official language too, but I think we need to learn english at the same level. </p>
<p>:-P</p>

i was wondering when were you gonna say it!!* xDDD

I knew you were going to say that again CNL, i don't agree with you but everybody has the right to say whatever they want...<br />On the speaking part, i think i'm good in pronunciation, but sometimes it's hard for me to express in english (most of all when i'm writing) but... everything in life is about practice

i hate u cnl xD spanish is the most beautiful language ever!, the only reason why english is .... almost a need, is 'cause USA is taking over the world xD at least in a commercial way.<p>

what else..?... i was going to say something... ah!, the pronunciation, it is ridiculous to pretend that someone could pronounce another language different of their own perfectly, it's just not gonna happen. You'll always talk "weird" to the people that has english as first language. And besides, the important thing about learning it, is to make yourself understood rather than reaching perfection. I learned watching cartoons in english and looking for the translation of the lyrics for the songs that i liked, so i got to a point where i understood what i heard or read, in fact i don't know exactly the grammar, the rules and all that, i just speak or write however it sounds right for me.

<p>Echi, good method.</p>
<p>I think the problem (at least, here in Spain) is the english level on schools. I remember my english classes, really bored while listening my teacher giving stupid lessons... pathetic. In fact, I've learned more by playing video-games (reading all parts of the story) and singing songs.</p>
<p>Other reason I think is be used to english idiom since your childhood. It creates the need to learn more and more, getting hypnotized when you hear anything in english. People that didn't have it instiled, now hate it.</p>

<p>I don't think English is the universal language because of the USA. It has something to do with it but not everithing. If you think about it for a minute, you would realise that english is one of the easiest languages to learn. On the other hand, Spanish for example is a very difficult one. </p>
<p>*If you want to learn a language for the future.........Chinese would be a great choice. In a few years it'll be a very useful skill which is going to be very important. China is a very powerful country now, and it's growing really fast!. The problem is that Chinese is a very difficult one.......so, it'll be hard to learn it.</p>
<p>I don'k now, I think english is great to express feelings. There are excellent ways in english to express amusement, sadness, happiness, beauty, and so much other things......and with only one sentence you expressed a lot!. In spanish you need to tell a lot*more to give the same idea!.</p>

I agree with Echi, I think Spanish is a beautiful language, and... well, I don't think that it's easier to express yourself in English, because Spanish is a really complete language, and you have specific words to say whatever you feel. <br /><br />You think English is more expressive because their words often are shorter than Spanish ones, and we are used to hear songs in English, but in my opinion that is more a feeling than a fact. That is said by a person who hears a lot of English music and like English very much, too. I love studying languages, it's wonderful now that you can talk to people from many different countries. <br /><br />English is quite useful, and I learned a lot about it playing abandonware :P when I was very, very young (yes, Rafa, when I was young and healthy xDD). I asked my brother the meanings of every word I saw in games like Sid meier's Civilization when I was hardly able to read in Spanish xD

<p>Chinese? Noooo,*it hasn't*future, it's not an extended language. People in China need to learn english if they want to communicate with the rest of the world.</p>

Chinese is the most*spoken language. And I don't care if that's only because there are 1000 millions of Chinese people xD If China becomes the super-important nation it aims to be, you will have to learn chinese*like you learn english now (which means, no problema, in Spain we won't*learn a shit about it xD)

<p>The increment of China's population will help english language, and not his own language, because they have to learn english if they want to communicate with other people.</p>
<p>If the increment*were produced in Spain, all would be different, because spanish language is extended, and we can carry on without speaking english. Yes, we would have to learn english anyway, but we aren't as needed as chinese people are.</p>

<p>XDD That's right. It doesn't even matter for Spain lol.</p>
<p>I think chinese will have more problems if they want to install the idiom, foremost in Europe, where a lot of languages are coexisting, some wich countries are narrow minded to changes. What is more, think you have to write in a different alphabet. In any case, if China aims to keep growing, who knows...</p>

<p>That's exactly what I'm talking about. Last year I read in a magazine that China was having more incomings per month than the United States, and China is growing economically every day!. So it's going to be very important for countries to be able to establish a commerce with China.</p>
<p>*Let's put an example to make it clearer. Argentina for example. Imagine that Argentina starts exporting(I don't kno if this word even exist but, I think you understand what I mean) goods to China. There are more than 1.3 billion Chinese people(1 billion=1000 millones), so it would be a great deal for the country. It would help a lot to our economy!. It's not as important for China to commerce with us, as it is for Argentina to commerce with them. And that applies to most countries so.......why would the chinese people keep studying english, french, or any other language when it's a profitable way of earning money to the others countries??.</p>

<p>They can establish his business in China, what's the problem of the language in this case? I don't understand, what do you want to say?</p>
<p>Most people in China are used to talk in English if they need to communicate with a foreigner. You don't have to learn chinese (or any other language) if you want to go to China (or any other country), and this is the reason why chinese would never be extended.</p>

<p>No........you are so wrong. I'm sory to tell you that except from Beijing thear in China they don't speak not even a little of english. A friend of mine went there with his father 3 times, and a friend of my father went thear too and he travel all through* China and both told me that, except when they where in Beijing, they had to use body-languaje in order to find whatever they want!</p>
<p>So I think that if China keep growing like this it would be very important this language!</p>

<p>Perhaps the situation is changing... now they have to change in order to establish relations with the rest of the world. At least the "important" part of China (industrialized one).</p>
<p>Chinese has no future :-)</p>

I'd be very happy to hear that if it true....but I think we all know that they have a lot of future. They work a lot, they are very smart. Every time I read in a magazine about a phisycs or maths competition they said that it is very impressive to see that the Chinesse finish the test in an hour and a half while it takes to everyone else like 6 hours......and they always get medalls, so.........we'll have to admit that they are going, sory, they are a very important country. China is one of the most powerful countries nowadays!

<p>Yes, but I'm talking about chinese language ¬¬</p>
<p>They may have future, but... in english. However, I don't think so... I think you are confusing China with Japan... people in Japan are smarter than in China, they have a better (and restrictive) educative system.</p>

i never thought i would say this, but cnl is right, the chinese language will stay in china. My brother is in the navy here, and next year is going to china for some kind of specialization in telecom., but in order to do that, he has to reach an english level of at least 50%. Besides, last year a representation of a chinese company came (selling i don't know what to the venezuelan navy) and they communicate purely in english. So i think that, if u r not planning moving in to china, learning english will do just fine xD

<p>Just wait, you all non-believers!! China will rise and will destroy everything opposing to them MUAHAHAHA!!!</p>
<p>Er... Yeah, you don't have to learn Chinese right now, they are not THAT important now...</p>

China will never be important :-)

<p>I hope you are right!. </p>
<p>What can I say. China is very powerful now and it will be more powerful in the future, but it would be nice not to learn chinese at all!.</p>

Whoa CNL, how much would it cost for me? I want you to tell me what's going to happen in my future :P<br /><br />CNL has dressed himself up as fortune-teller xDD. It's a little bit dangerous to go saying this kind of things... isn't it? ;)

Future will smack on your face :)

How optimistic Rafa :P<br /><br />I actually have hope in my future, life will tell me if I was right or wrong...

<p>It was reffering to CNL.</p>

china? ... you're right its a powerfull country but the goverment sucks and from a moment to another they'll fall in a several crisis ... i don't know ... maybe i'm wrong maybe not ;) only futura will say it.

I don't think that's a possibility but who know's.........cnl?.......only time can tell!

sooo.. i don't want this topic to died....<br /><br />people.. how long have you studied english? or since when do you know? how many years?<br />I studied 5 years of english, receving i little diploma that says i can teach... and that was about 5 years ago.. so It's been 10 years since i started studing english... i just need to improve my vocabulary, which is very poor.. and i'd like to make a trip to London.. It has been a plan for a couple of years... hope i can make it soon, i'd realy like to go...<br />What about you?<br /><br /><br />i you don't like the subject, please pick another theme to talk/discuss, i just didn't know what to talk about...* :P

<p>I consider this post a great way of practising my english too.........and it's really a very good idea.....the problem is that we have to start a motivating topic so people would want to keep posting here!</p>
<p>* I almost made a trip to Europe this year.* I was about to go with a friend of mine but I say no in the end so now he is there in France..........he has been there for about 8 mounth now and he had a wale of a time!.....He work a lot in order to travel all around europe!.....the advantage was that he has relatives there!.....</p>

ah.. i really want to go there someday.. I'd like to go to London.. i always wanted because i love british accent!! hehe... <br /><br />A friend of mine is in Europe now, she went for the Fifa World Cup and then she went from country to country whit another girl, she met a lot of places..<br />Now she is in Valencia, España.. and she is returning in October because her visa expires, I think she is going to go back there again.. <br /><br />I always loved traveling!... i hope i can someday go to Europe and travel a lot, meet as many countries as i can.... <br />It would be very cool to do a backpacking trip around Europe.. :D<br /><br />but well.... it's just a dream now...

C'mon! you can make it happen aldana, don't think it as a dream... I wanna go*to europe too, but first i wanna go backpaking across america, to get to Machu Pichu, that's a great trip, i know people who did it and loved it!!

ohh.. i want to make it happen!!!.. and if it is not this year or the next.. it would be some other year!!!<br /><br />If i don't do it now.. is because i'm quite short whit the money. hehehe.. But i'm saving.. so, someday i will!!!<br /><br />ohhhh... my mum said that she would pay me one way ticket to Europe after i finish my career!!!!! I'm sooo happy!!!!!! She is the coolest!!!!<br />Tha bad thing is that until that day, there are like 4 years in between...hehehe** :P<br /><br /><br /><br />yes... i dont want this topic to dieeeeeeeeeeee....... and yessss i'm soooooo bored right now......<br />i would play some trivia... but then it's just me....... i found trvia fun... <br />But, i'm going to sleep any time soon, so it wouldn't be a time to play it anyway.. hehehe* :P

:-O

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<p align="center">---- Love is Pain ----</p>

<span class="postbody"> Una carta de una unidad multinacional a todos sus miembros DE HABLA HISPANA <br /> <br /> To: All Spanish Members <br /> <br /> Several visitors to our office have brought to our attention that <br /> our <br /> Spanish-speaking employees commonly use offensive language. Such <br /> behavior, in addition to violating firm practices, is highly unprofessional, <br /> offensive both to visitors and employees, and will not be tolerated. <br /> <br /> Therefore, we have decided to implement a series of rules in our <br /> office and would expect them to be applied. It is expected that ALL employees immediately adhere to these rules: <br /> <br /> 1- Words like coño, carajo and other such expressions will not be used <br /> for emphasis, no matter how heated the discussion may get. <br /> <br /> 2- Non important matters should not be addressed to as jilipolleces. <br /> <br /> 3- You will not say la cagó when someone makes a mistake, or se cagó <br /> en su madre if you see someone being reprimended. All forms and derivatives of the word cagar are inappropriate in our environment. <br /> <br /> 4- Lack of determination will not be referred to as falta de cojones <br /> or mariconerías, nor will a person with lack of initiative be referred <br /> to as cagón, mamón or comemierda. <br /> <br /> 5- No Manager or Supervisor, under any circumstances, will be referred to as hijo de puta, ese cabrón, or ese maricón. <br /> <br /> 6- When a good proposal is presented, the term esto está de puta madre <br /> must not be used. <br /> <br /> 7- Unusual or creative brainstorming meetings will not be referred to as <br /> pajas mentales. <br /> <br />8- Do not say como jode if a person is persistent, or se jodió if somebody is going through a difficult situation. Furthermore, you <br /> must not say qué jodienda, or esto está del carajo when matters become <br /> complicated in your line of work. <br /> <br /> 9- When asking someone to leave you alone, you should not say vete <br /> pa'lcarajo, nor will you substitute: ¿qué carajo quieres? for "may I help <br /> you?". <br /> <br /> 10- When leaving the office, using the term me voy pa'l carajo is not <br /> proper. <br /> <br /> 11- When any office equipment fails, it must be reported as "it broke <br /> down", not se descojonó, or se jodió la mierda esta. <br /> <br /> 12- Last but not least, after reading this memo, please do not say me <br /> voy a limpiar el culo con esto. Just keep it clean and file properly. <br /> <br /> Thank you for your cooperation</span>

<p>NOW IM GO TO STUDY A LITTLE...</p>
<p>IM SOO BORED TOO, </p>
<p>IM DON`T KNOW .... </p>
<p>IM LIKE GO TO JAPAN OR JAMAICA NOW , DRINK A EXOTIC DRINKS , DANCE WITH A BEAUTIFULL GIRLS ANDO GO TO BEACH EVERI TIME...</p>
<p>WELL ITS GONNA RAIN HERE NOW,....</p>
<p>BUT IM LIKE SOO MUTCH THE RAIN, IM REMEMBER, IM THINK, IM FLY WITH MY MIND. THE RAIN IS BEAUTIFULL..... IM LIKE IT</p>

<p>in the end of the year im like to travel to mexico.... or colombia.... </p>